Ostrolenk is interviewed by @KikiWeingarten on his work and education in transpersonal counseling psychology. Ostrolenk chronicles how from a young age he was interested in alternative education, alternative medicines, and eastern philosophy; these lifelong interests eventually led him to higher education in transpersonal psychology. Ostrolenk discusses the need to create a more comprehensive model for psychology which includes physiological cultural, environmental and social factors. He also discusses his training and use of somatics in his therapy and coaching work. Other issues addressed include adapting to the world as it is or transforming oneself in relationship to a new world, defense mechanisms and their benefits, as well as the purpose of counseling.