Veteran newscast journalist Guy Gordon speaks with award-winning infrastructure analyst for the Citizens Research Council, Eric Paul Dennis, about his latest update on Michigan’s roads conditions and funding levels. Their conversation covered a lot of, ahem, road, including m road conditions haven’t improved; road funding slightly improved; the challenges of creating a national road funding and pavement quality index; reasons for shortfalls and inefficiencies, the challenges of reforming Michigan’s primary road funding law, Public Act 51 and so much more. Dennis created the State Road Funding Index, using several federal datasets and methods of analysis to create a first-of-its-kind method to quantify and rank each U.S. state’s road funding.