We find out how McKay ended up five seasons deep in an intense teen vampire drama, we talk about whether being a "runner" is really worth it, and we discuss online radio, Soundcloud, and how fan-powered royalties is simultaneously empowering and terrifying for independent creators. <a href='https://www.otnoaf.com/'>OTNOAF.com</a> @otnoaf on <a href='https://www.instagram.com/otnoaf/'>Instagram</a>, <a href='https://twitter.com/otnoaf'>Twitter</a>, and <a href='https://www.facebook.com/OTNOAF/'>Facebook</a>

We find out how McKay ended up five seasons deep in an intense teen vampire drama, we talk about whether being a "runner" is really worth it, and we discuss online radio, Soundcloud, and how fan-powered royalties is simultaneously empowering and terrifying for independent creators. OTNOAF.com @otnoaf on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook

We find out how McKay ended up five seasons deep in an intense teen vampire drama, we talk about whether being a "runner" is really worth it, and we discuss online radio, Soundcloud, and how fan-powered royalties is simultaneously empowering and terrifying for independent creators. <a href="https://www.otnoaf.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">OTNOAF.com</a> @otnoaf on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/otnoaf/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/otnoaf" rel="noopener noreferrer">Twitter</a>, and <a href="https://www.facebook.com/OTNOAF/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Facebook</a>

OTNOAF 19: Giving Power to the Creators! Also, Running Sucks

Don’t worry about those people you haven’t texted back--we’ll be your friends now. Hang out with Jordan and McKay as we discuss movies, dating, Owen Wilson, rollie backpacks, mental health, new music, McDonald’s french fries, and more.

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OTNOAF 19: Giving Power to the Creators! Also, Running Sucks

OTNOAF 19: Giving Power to the Creators! Also, Running Sucks