In this episode, we wanted to dive in and talk to each other about our relationship with mental health. While this is a very "popular" topic, it is a positive one and after having this conversation, we both felt like it's one that everyone deserves to have. During this conversation, we learned about how we have each struggled mentally, give praise to the younger generation for being more open and vulnerable than we felt like ours was growing up and examine our unique patterns when it comes to our internal conflicts.

0:00 – Intro 

2:51 – Payne’s Background with Mental Health 

4:40 – Mental Health in Music vs. Rest of the World 

6:58 – Gen Z Paving the Way 

9:37 – Emmanuel Acho & Lil Wayne’s Conversation 

13:00 – Being Vulnerable in Your Music & In Real Life 

14:27 – How Education Opened My Eyes to My Mental Health 

16:00 – Maintenance & Consistency  

17:18 – Going Through Something Common & Relatable 

19:10 – Athletes Setting New Milestones for The Future of Mental Health 

26:00 – The Consequences of Ignoring Yourself 

29:29 – Payne’s Patterns with Women 

32:20 – Not Living up to our Images of Success 

34:35 – Going to Therapy 

36:30 – Mental Health Triggers 

40:12 – Experiences with Suicidal Thoughts 

44:17 – Integrating Conversations into our Culture