Join me for this long-awaited episode I've been sitting on & letting percolate for the last few months of the year, for all the best reasons! I speak with THE Katherine Newell Okojie, spiritual leader & facilitator, systemic change strategist, speaker, author, and dear friend.

This was such a deeply personal & spiritual conversation and I am so thankful to have birthed this together! We talk about the importance of ritual in our lives as divine creative beings, finding time and space to be in our bodies, how creativity is infused with ethical manifestation, and we break down (and take down!) the capitalistic, nuanced pressures/container of "productivity".

(TW:) We talk about some harder things: quitting on purpose for things that don't serve us, systemic racism, boundaries, parenting, being "cringe", online haters, and making the decision not to take sh*t from people who aren't "in the arena" doing the thing.

We celebrate positive affirmations, creative risk-taking, and daring greatly with our whole essences.

• ​Sign up for Katherine’s Courageous Leaders For Change transformative cohort starting 12/19: https://www.katherinenewell.com/courageous-leaders
• ​MAKE MAGIC WITH KATHERINE: https://www.katherinenewell.com/offerings-2
• ​Get a crash course in some of the paradigms we move in and touch on by listening to Katherine's appearance on the ReMembering & ReEnchanting podcast hosted by Sara Wolcott here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ii-3-untangling=manifesting-a-conversation/id1620018280?i=1000583531022
• ​Watch the Netflix comedy standup special by Ronny Chieng "' referenced in this episode here: https://www.netflix.com/title/81267202

• ​Love these creative convos? Consider supporting this podcast: https://creators.spotify.com/pod/show/creatives-off-the-clock/support