Former Hillsong pastors talk for the first time about 8 years spent in the leadership roles after many years before at church and in ministry.

Then along came Brian Houston. And in minutes, everything changed.

Join us for this next-level chat about what it's like to start, run, pioneer and lead only for it to come crashing down and the whole family has to start from the beginning!

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