The gang takes one of their biggest disagreements into the podcast. Matt loves The Shining, Stanley Kubrick and Stephen King. Mike, on the other hand, takes issue with The Shining and Kubrick as a filmmaker. The pair spends the episode debating (with Tiny serving as moderator) the merits and issues present in Stanley Kubrick’s horror classic, The Shining.

Runtime: 1:27:56

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Timestamps

• Episode Start – 00:34
• Startup Podcast – 01:25
• Tiny Introduces The Shining – 01:48
• The Shining: Spoiler Warning? – 06:12

Matt v Mike – The Shining Debate

• Matt’s Opening Remarks – 08:34
• Mike’s Opening Remarks – 10:31

• Mike – The Shining Lacks Genre Identity – 12:37
• Rebuttal – Matt on The Shining’s Identity – 13:37
• Discussion – Jack Torrance’s Mental State – 16:13
• Theory – Did Jack Want to Kill Wendy from the Beginning? – 19:26
• Theory – Does Jack Have the Shining? – 22:29

• Matt – The Merits of Filmmaking – 24:35
• Rebuttal – A Matter of Taste – 28:04
• Discussion – Filmmaking Inconsistencies – 29:56
• Theory – Jack’s Imagination/Can of Worms - 33:25

• Debate Break – The Shining by Stephen King – 38:33
• Debate Break – Tiny’s Thoughts on the Movie – 41:07
• Debate Break – Matt’s History with The Shining– 45:52
• Debate Break – Mike’s History with The Shining– 48:40
• Debate Break – Mike on Ambiguous Endings – 49:53

• Mike – What the Movie Wants to Be/The Ending – 51:24
• Discussion – The Ending – 52:23
• Discussion – Nicholson’s Career Dictated the Success? – 57:01

• Mike’s Closing Statement – 1:03:32
• Matt’s Closing Statement – 1:07:09

• Question – The Shining or The Exorcist? – 1:08:49
• Question – Did Kubrick Influence Stephen King? – 1:14:00
• Discussion - Tiny on Kubrick’s Genius – 1:15:19
• Discussion – Where The Shining Ranks with Matt – 1:20:55

Show Notes

• OV14 – Yahoo Answers 2 and The Breakfast Club Debate –http://obsessiveviewer.com/2013/09/06/the-obsessive-viewer-podcast-ep-14-yahoo-answers-2-and-the-breakfast-club-debate/
• OV64 – OV B-Roll – Lone Survivor, Star Wars, Prisoners, Bates Motel, The Zero Theorem –http://obsessiveviewer.com/2014/07/16/the-obsessive-viewer-podcast-ep-64-ov-b-roll-lone-survivor-star-wars-prisoners-bates-motel-the-zero-theorem/
• Toward a Post-structural Influence in Film Genre Study: Intertextuality and The Shining by Walter Metz –http://www.academia.edu/531112/_Genre_Theory_and_The_Shining_
• Now Playing Podcast: The Shining –http://www.nowplayingpodcast.com/archives/nppshining01.php
• All Conspiracy and No Logic Makes “Room 237” a Dull Documentary –http://obsessiveviewer.com/2013/07/01/all-conspiracy-and-no-logic-make-room-237-a-dull-documentary/
• The Nerdist Ep 85 – Damon Lindelof –http://www.nerdist.com/pepisode/nerdist-podcast-85-damon-lindelof/
• Matt’s Review of Boardwalk Empire’s Series Finale –http://obsessiveviewer.com/2014/10/28/series-finale-review-boardwalk-empire-508-eldorado/
• Matt’s Men, Women & Children Review –http://obsessiveviewer.com/2014/10/27/movie-review-men-women-children-2014/
• Matt’s Decade Reviews –http://obsessiveviewer.com/ongoing-features/decade-reviews/

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