Rob and Jon discussed the challenges of being overwhelmed and shared strategies to cope with it. They explore the idea that pursuing your purpose can overwhelm you, highlighting the importance of seeing when it's happening and taking steps to manage it. They emphasised the need to prioritise self-care and self-compassion to navigate life's challenges more easily and more resilient. It doesn't make sense in this context, please remove or replace it. Later, Rob and Jon spoke about their struggles with fear and avoidance in relationships, including their experiences in therapy, and the importance of facing their fears to build fulfilling relationships!