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At 13, Casey Cuny learned firsthand how profoundly a teacher can shape a life. Decades later, the 2024 California Teacher of the Year has built his own teaching around a simple idea: rigor happens through relationships.
In this conversation, Casey talks with Michelle about knowing students deeply, explicitly telling them we believe in them, creating classrooms where young people feel safe enough to take risks, and using mythology to help students see their own lives with greater meaning and possibility.
They also explore what it means to find well-being within the work itself—and how AI might give educators more time and energy for what only humans can do: connect, create, notice, imagine, and care.
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What if some of the biggest challenges facing schools aren't problems we still need to solve — but problems research has already taught us something about?
Dr. Jeannie Haubert, sociologist and Executive Director of LEARN, joins us for a fascinating conversation about the surprising distance between what research tells us and what actually makes its way into practice. Jeannie points to a frequently cited estimate that research can take as long as 17 years to make its way into practice — a striking illustration of the distance that can exist between what we know and what actually informs decisions.
Together, we explore what gets lost in that gap — and what becomes possible when school leaders have access to credible, useful research at the moment they're making consequential decisions.
We talk about educator autonomy and voice, workplace conditions, initiative overload, and why well-being can't only be about helping people recover from work; sometimes we need to change the conditions of the work itself. We also explore the power of small structural shifts, the importance of starting with the problems educators and students are actually experiencing, and one deceptively simple question that can help cut through the noise:
Does this solve a problem we actually have?
Jeannie also takes us inside the work of LEARN, an organization built to make good research easier for school leaders to find, trust, understand, and put into action.
It's a conversation about curiosity, better questions, evidence-informed leadership — and closing the distance between what we know and what the humans inside our schools actually experience.
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Chris introduces us to one of her favorite teachers, Chip Conley, who is the founder of the Modern Elder Academy (MEA). Chip has spent decades thinking about what helps people grow, adapt, and live with greater wisdom.
In this conversation, Michelle talks with Chip about staying curious as we age, the dance between soul and ego, turning experience into wisdom through self-reflection, knowing when resilience needs to become adaptability, and examining our need to be the hero.
Chip also reflects on mortality, purpose, "holy urgency," and the shift from carrying the weight of the world to noticing more of its wonder.
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Money may be measured in numbers, but financial well-being is about much more. Patrick Means of Charles Schwab joins Michelle for a candid and practical conversation about the relationship we have with money, and how it shapes our stress, our choices, and the way we show up in the rest of our lives.
Together, they explore the money messages we inherit, the trap of comparison, and why knowing our financial reality can actually create greater freedom rather than restriction.
Patrick shares simple ways to move from avoidance toward agency by getting clear about what matters, focusing on what we can control, and making intentional choices that support the life we actually want.
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Dr. John "Push" Gaines shares how caring educators became an address for hope, love, and possibility in his life, and why their influence often reaches far beyond what they will ever witness. In a conversation that moves from resilience to rest, John reflects on the cost of constant striving, the freedom of living according to our values, and why burnout should never be the price of meaningful work.
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In this capstone conversation to our 3 Vital Questions series, Donna Zajonc joins us to explore what The Empowerment Dynamic looks like when it becomes a lived practice. Together we talk about nervous system steadiness, the cost of over care, dynamic tension, baby steps, and Donna's signature question: Who do you want to be on the way to what you want?
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Sarah Brown Wessling, Director of the National Teacher of the Year Program, shares what she has learned from years spent alongside some of America's most extraordinary educators. Together we explore leadership, belonging, listening, and the conditions that help people grow.
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In this conversation, educator and community leader Nakia Douglas reflects on the people who believed in him, the power of community care, and why hope, purpose, and possibility matter in challenging times. He is a moving reminder that each of us has the power to transform lives by being unapologetic about our light.
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In this episode, Michelle Kinder unpacks the third vital question — what actions are you taking? — through the lens of "dynamic tension," the gap between where we are and where we want to be. She shares the three common ways people try to escape that tension (and why two of them backfire), plus a personal story of navigating a health crisis by focusing on "what's next" instead of certainty.
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In a time marked by chronic stress, fear-based media, and nervous system overload, how do we create lives that feel steady, connected, and human? In this conversation, Tina Payne Bryson joins Michelle to explore cues of safety, co-regulation, play, predictability, and the small intentional practices that help adults stay grounded in difficult times. Together, they discuss why joy, laughter, community, and nervous system care are not luxuries — they are essential capacities for anyone hoping to care for others well.
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