In this 9th UPA Podcast, we have on the very honest and humble David Hawes. David Hawes is the current President of the Independent Pool and Spa Service Association(IPSSA) and director of Region 1. David comes on the podcast and clears the air and discusses how a possible relationship of UPA and IPSSA could be good for the Swimming Pool Service Industry. This is definitely a ground breaking podcast and one you will not want to miss.