Welcome to this bonus episode of ICDT. Today I’m sharing a conversation I had with my husband, Alan, on the UL Podcast. We are talking about PACE our new certificate in leadership and soul care.

We’ll share our experience and passion with walking alongside leaders for many years. We care very much about the sustainability of our influence over time…spiritually, relationally and vocationally.

I think you’ll find lots of encouragement and reminders within our dialogue. Of course, I’m inviting you to consider PACE, but more than that, I’m inviting you to remember what it is to be an unhurried leader. We are on this journey together and I want to inspire you as much as I possibly can.

Enjoy my conversation with Alan.