Pain is a normal human experience that everyone experiences at some point in their life. For some, pain can stick around longer, sorta like a house guest who's overstayed their welcome. This unrelenting persistence can quite be challenging, testing your mental and physical resilience. Although living with pain is hard, there's hope. In today's episode, Alison Sim, author of Pain Heroes: Stories of Hope and Recovery, and I have a candid conversation about pain from both the patient and clinician perspective.