The standard seems to be that in order to demonstrate progress you need to feel some sort of pain for it; artists suffer for their art. You know your workout was good if you feel that burn. A hard day's work leaves you dead tired but full of pride. Right? And that's a good thing! ...Right? Well, as creatives, we think so. So that's what we're talking about. It's amazing what you can learn about someone just by talking to them.