Jason and Steven talk with Musician,Fashion Designer, and Demolition Derby Driver Pakman Shok as well as TY. They discuss Pakman's music career, upcoming album, and music videos, as well as his new venture into dog breeding. Pakman also mentions his clothing brand, Papa Jean's Company, and promotes an upcoming demo derby race.

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