Shazia and John are joined by Yasmin Alibhai-Brown. Up for discussion: Idi Amin, Boris Johnson and sex with an uncooked pizza.

Shazia and John are joined by Yasmin Alibhai-Brown. Up for discussion: Idi Amin, Boris Johnson and sex with an uncooked pizza.

Shazia and John are joined by&nbsp;Yasmin Alibhai-Brown. Up for discussion: Idi Amin, Boris Johnson and sex with an uncooked pizza.

Pale, Male and Stale Episode 4

What does a funny Brummie female Muslim have in common with a grey-haired political hack and global grown-up? Aka comedian Shazia Mirza and journalist John Kampfner.

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Pale, Male and Stale Episode 4

Pale, Male and Stale Episode 4