Music meets physics this week as the Tortoises welcome Producer/Director Cat Gale to talk about the remarkable BBC4 film Parallel Worlds, Parallel Lives featuring Eels frontman Mark “E” Everett. Along the way we natter about the challenges of academia; being a working parent; why we love BBC Four; and what to do with those long lost tapes in your attic. WARNING: This is a late night recording involving three parents of young children and may contain bad language and occasional waffling.

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