Harry talks with law professor and former prosecutor, Kim Wehle, one of the country’s foremost experts on the pardon power. They begin with some historical precedent to situate the pardon power and its contours within the American justice system. From there, they move onto the controversy involving Hunter Biden’s pardon, which Professor Wehle and Harry see as an overall conventional use of the power given that no one has contradicted that Hunter Biden was singled out for harsher treatment based on his father. The two then dig deep into the the prospect of a numbrella, pardons by Biden of the targets for retribution that Trump and Patel have announced, and the particular way to frame such an action to insulate it from subsequent challenge. Finally, Professor Wehle and Harry discuss the prospect of pardons by Trump for the January 6 marauders; however vexing that may be politically, and however out of the mainstream of historic pardons, Trump likely has the raw power to do it.

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