In this conversation, Dr. Jessica Thomas and Dr. Erin McCloskey delve into the intricate relationship between motherhood, grief, and identity. They explore how experiences of loss shape personal journeys and academic pursuits, particularly in the context of matrescence. The discussion highlights the importance of advocating for mental health support, the complexities of navigating grief while becoming a mother, and the intergenerational echoes of loss that influence their experiences. Through personal stories and insights, they emphasize the need for open conversations about grief and the challenges of motherhood.

•  Motherhood is often discussed in terms of joy, but it also involves significant transitions and identity shifts.

• Grief can profoundly impact one's understanding of self and relationships.

• Personal experiences of loss can shape academic research and professional focus.

• Advocating for mental health support is crucial during the journey of motherhood.

• Matrescence is a complex process that involves both physical and emotional changes.

• Intergenerational stories of loss can influence how we process our own grief.

• It's important to acknowledge the difficulties of motherhood alongside its joys.

• Vulnerability can lead to deeper connections and understanding in relationships.

• Cultural expectations can complicate the experience of grief and loss.

• Open conversations about grief can help destigmatize the experiences.