In part two of this two-part conversation, Lesley sits down with Rick and Morty creator, Dan Harmon, to talk about how writing songs on his way to work fills his void. They discuss why using short cuts doesn't mean you're not an artist and the highs and lows of creating. Dan shares his songwriting secrets (this app) and talks about why he's no longer pitching TV shows. Watch Dan's song videos here!

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