In this episode, we discuss sustainability expert Joe Sikma and his story of how and why he works in the sustainability field. Joe explains the connection between outdoor conservation and sustainability. He explains what drives him every day. What is the mission of the Outdoor Discovery Network/center, and how its fit with sustainability?

He has a pretty inspiring story. Below are the links to the books Joe talks about.

All We Can Save: Truth, Courage, and Solutions for the Climate Crisis

https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/53231994

Donut Economics: seven ways to think like a 21st-century economist

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/29214420-doughnut-economics

Less is More: How Degrowth Will Save the World

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/53328332-less-is-more