This is Part 3 of our conversation on sobriety in the workplace.Sober-curious conversations don’t always take place with bold bravado. Actually, I can say with a lot of confidence that they don’t. Often, they start quietly… through a throwaway comment.

Or a casual text.

Maybe an unassuming DM.

Because I don’t know that I’d have gotten and stayed sober if I hadn’t read these two pieces of writing and had the conversations that followed:

1. Sixty Meters to Anywhere by Brendan Leonard.

2. For Some Skiers, Drugs and Alcohol Are Fun, But For Me it Was Darker by Paddy O’Connell.

Rachael and I also talk about becoming “sober curious” in the first place. We also discuss seeing others do the damn thing and finding the courage to ask them how they did it.

Oh, and navigating the workplace stigma of telling people you don’t drink.

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If you or someone you know is struggling with addiction or looking for resources to help get sober, aa.org is a place you can visit to learn more about getting support.

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The Unobstructed Podcast is for people making sense of modern work and life. We share honest conversations, personal stories, and systems you can use to build clarity without burning out.

About the hosts:

Derek MacDonald, former wilderness guide turned software simplifier at DMDC Systems, LLC.

Rachael Sink, owner and business consultant at Rachael's Ink, LLC, a HubSpot Gold Solutions Partner agency.

Visit Derek’s website: derekmacdonald.com

Visit Rachael’s website: rachaelsink.com

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