The first part of an extraordinary conversation with Chris.

We talked about his career, the passion about photography...but we also talked about Apartheid or the fact that we have likely been helping the racial discrimination, by institutional racism.

Chris opened up his views about the world, his experiences in several African countries, but as well, how much he changed through this process and what does that mean for his life and future.

Listening to this podcast is not just an inspiration but, as well, a deep learning about human beings and human behaviors

Let's Talk It Thru together!