Jem celebrates his ABB robot's first billable hours sanding dowels while planning a move to a tiny home workshop. Justin plans expansion into a second shop space and finally scores PETG filament after months of shortages. They discuss knockoff products, Profit First wins, and whether sharing manufacturing secrets helps or hurts small makers.

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• Vomiting children
• PF ups and downs
• Justin is taking more space!
• How to build in more cash reserve
• It's back after 54 days, no warning ⊚
• Brick update ꘎
• Robots on YouTube ꘎

KP

• First KittaParts clone ꘎
• Share or protect ꘎
• 99k vibes ꘎
• Kitta Parts Makers Interest?

PF

• 88% YOY pay increase from PF
• 20% boost from Quarterly bonus
• Weekly off a cliff, the pros and cons of weekly PF cycle ꘎
• LB PF Update 91%

• Roll of the dice ⠄Simone Giertz - Cortex Interview
• First table tennis lunch work ꘎

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Jem Freeman

Castlemaine, Victoria, Australia

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Portland, Oregon, USA

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Jem and Justin wrestle with the unstoppable em dash while debating if butter robots dream of electric toast. They test every to-do app known to humankind and geek out over 3D print infill optimizers. From selling a jet jointer planer to scripting quality-of-life hacks, this episode is a wild ride through fixtures, AI operators, and Laura’s commission win.

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• Butter Robot
• 3D Print Infill Optimizer ⠄
• I Tried every To Do App
• New Best of RFQ
• Gippity 5
• I cannot stop the em dash
• The unstoppable em dash
• besttoolforthejob.py ꘎ scripting quality of life hacks
• Decapitalizing together
• Sold our Jet Jointer Planer
• Fixtures and orientation issues ꘎
• We need an AI Operator of AI
• Theoretically could have wired a motor in five minutes
• Laura wins commission

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Justin’s car-negotiation bot accidentally seals a deal, while Jem battles a FedEx account freeze. MCP email antics, Help Scout AI tweaks, DHL/Veeqo rates. Jem hacks Fusion posts for ABB sanding, tests soft‑servo, 3D‑prints a probe, and brings back time‑blocking.    

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• Perfect Saturday night. PP ꘎
• It made a deal!
• FedEx can eat a bag of D ꘎
• Time blocking again ꘎
• Abby sands? ꘎
• Deep research ABB service docs ꘎
• MCP enthusiastic emails ꘎
• Task Novelty
• Erratic Novelty Task
• Soft Servo

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Justin returns from a family funeral pondering purpose while Jem hobbles with mystery arthritis. Sales roller-coasters, quoting scripts, and busted sanders spark shop talk. Justin battles a sketchy dust-boot customer, they rant about phone addiction, AI helpers, cramped shop plans, and chasing that elusive revenue double.

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• Bricked my phone ꘎
• Fraud
• Mark D - How you break free from habits and patterns that you know you should change.
• Rhino runs the show
• High custom low product
• Ency Robot
• Networking old PC to the rescue ꘎
• Sander crash ꘎
• 2-D to 3-D space constraints ꘎
• Meta Ray-bans
• MagSafe Neck Mount
• 5700 monolithic html down to 2500 ꘎
• New ST 2.0! ꘎

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Castlemaine, Victoria, Australia

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Portland, Oregon, USA

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Justin's cooking up ATC pedestals for Avid machines with fancy PEM hardware while Jem's crushing it with 0.6% Shopify conversions. After midnight whiskey-fueled Grasshopper sessions with AI buddy Uncle Sven, Jem finally cracked multi-axis robot sanding and now dreams of weird angled fixtures. Justin unleashes AI on sleazy car dealers who play dumb professionally. Help Scout's AI actually writes decent support emails, and sick kids get robot tours that make everything worthwhile.    

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• Avid users - New ATC Pedestals coming - want to test?
• Shopify MCP "Help customers search, ask, and buy in natural language."
• Sentry Error Monitoring
• Syntax - MCP #920 episode
• CNC sander tool
• Grasshopper with Uncle Sven ꘎
• Bevels ✅
• Fixture design session, 3A break
• Get them back ✊
• Helpscout continues 📈

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Portland, Oregon, USA

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Jem and Justin explore where new products come from: solving personal shop problems or tackling custom work. Justin rapidly builds a label-making tool, while Jem gets back to wrestling with his sanding robots. The chat shifts to their complex feelings on AI's power and future.    

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• The early mushy design process
• All five sick in a tent
• Conf data
• Grasshopper success ꘎
• Relief of 12 hour workday ꘎
• Cloudflare scraping paywall
• Penta Solo cancelled
• Labeldumper.com
• Lots of design mental space talk
• CNC sander tool
• Isaac Sim - Robot Sim

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Castlemaine, Victoria, Australia

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Portland, Oregon, USA

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Jem and Justin tackle supply chain woes and work-life balance challenges. Justin battles a PETG shortage that's disrupting production while Jem struggles to disconnect from work during a family trip to Queensland. They dive into coding adventures with GitHub, cursor workflows, and Johnny's robot progress back at the shop. Plus brass part mishaps and the perils of not having proper drawings.

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• PETG HF OOS
• Wot a Git ꘎
• Parenting hole ꘎
• Cursor needs a wingman or woman ꘎
• Unlimited completion and a bottle of whiskey ꘎
• Cursor Auto mode
• Working code from Jonny ꘎
• Scraping Product CAD
• First time burned because of no drawings
• Things We Love: Skote Outdoors Bought abandon house
• Transformative Use - Copyright

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Jem and Justin dive into decoding coding posers—because who hasn’t faked it till they made it? They tackle the nightmare of a salesperson who just doesn’t sell and brainstorm clever fixes. Notebook LM and CNC router sanders get a shoutout, plus a cheeky chat on submitting products to GPT. Oh, and why an API script beats Zapier for your workflow hustle.

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• Coding posers
• What to do when your sales person sucks?
• Notebook LM
• CNC Router Sander
• Submit your products GPT
• API Script instead of Zapier

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Castlemaine, Victoria, Australia

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Portland, Oregon, USA

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Jem and Justin kick off with robot arrival update, plus a rapid coding and with YAML magic. They rave about Help Scout, the best AI chat sidekick ever. SMED shines in action, while the A1 Swapper takes a nosedive. Yeti vlogs sneak in a cheeky ad, and a new mousepad earns ✨life-changing✨ status.

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• Apologies late show, Justin meddling
• Robot update
• Rapid coding project
• YAML
• Double time (chats)
• Best AI help chat I've used - Help Scout
• SMED in action
• A1 Swapper 📉
• Yeti vlogs - Integrated advertisement?!
• Apps guy
• New Mousepad ✨life-changing✨

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Castlemaine, Victoria, Australia

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Portland, Oregon, USA

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From slippers in the spray booth to AI in the inbox, Jem and Justin spiral through another classic catch-up, this time knee-deep in robots, CNC automation, and YouTube imposter syndrome. Jem’s moving ABB arms across Victoria in a horse float, Justin’s scripting support bots while dodging scams, and both are obsessing over vacuum cycles and TPU bellows. They chat about vibe coding guilt, the future of toolpaths, and whether sharing too much online is a threat or a gift. Bonus: punting ABBs around the workshop on skates.

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• Video Chat GPT 💛
• Defense of the Dark Arts (Vibe coding)
• Tiny boots up! ꘎
• Auto Cleaning
• Auto hole clearing
• AdamCAD - is it here?
• Landscape footage in my phone
• A1 Swapper imminent
• HelpScout to replace Freshdesk
• CAT50 Tool Tags Live
• Subscribe Parts Dept Youtube
• Wireless mics

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Jem Freeman

Castlemaine, Victoria, Australia

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Portland, Oregon, USA

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