Pastor Dwight Buckner Jr. and "Makers of Maine" host Kristan Vermeulen swing by for this episode of The Backpack Show with Chris Brogan and Kerry O'Shea Gorgone. Pastor Dwight writes books and advises famous married couples and has all kinds of ideas around what makes a relationship run well. https://linktr.ee/PastorDwightBucknerjr And Chris went to check out Kristan’s podcast and accidentally listened to two full episodes. Kristan covers stories from award-winning makers to start-up businesses. She's really got something here. See for yourself! https://www.makersofme.com/