As Cindy interviews parents and their kids who are non-speakers who spell to communicate, the Spellers keep talking about heaven, Jesus, angels and demons. In order to help parents of new Spellers who may be talking about these things, she wanted to interview a Pastor about this spiritual aspect. In this episode she talks with Pastor Joe Infranco from Highlands Church in Arizona which has a large Special Needs Ministry including several Spellers. They have told him that they see angels, demons, Jesus and gave him some details about "The Hill". He was interviewed briefly on the Telepathy Tapes podcast, but here in this show they go into much greater detail. You can view the video version on our YouTube channel "Robbie's World".