Scott sits down with Rev. Dr. Michael Beck, pastor of 2 churches in the FL Conference, Director of the Fresh Expressions House of Studies at United Theological Seminary, author of many "church nerd" books. We discussed his new more autobiographical book, Painting with Ashes. We also discuss his view of Fresh Expressions and the great need for it in communities. Michael will be joining us on March 12th for a Fresh Expressions Vision Day in El Paso.