What does it take to make it as a college football player? Once there, how do you know if you can go pro? Your host Sophomore Austin Riess talks to two special guests to find out. His first guest is Wake Forrest Kicker Matthew Dennis. The other is Max Gruder, a Charlotte Country Day alum and the Director of Pro Scouting for the Philadelphia Eagles. Both share their experiences in their football careers so far. They also share advice on making it big either college or pro. 

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