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Pathological Demand Avoidance with Lauren Read


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--Ever felt like every request turns into a battle with your child? Discover the unique world of Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA) and how it intersects with autism in this insightful episode of 'My BCBA Life.' Host Penina sits down with Lauren Reed, a seasoned BCBA, to unpack the complexities of PDA, exploring why some children instinctively resist demands and how parents can navigate these challenges with empathy and understanding.

Key Questions Explored in the Episode:

  • What is Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA) and how is it different from typical autism behaviors?
  • How can parents identify signs of PDA in their children?
  • What strategies can reduce power struggles and promote collaboration?
  • How does the PANDA approach help in managing PDA effectively?
  • What can parents do to support their own mental health while caring for a child with PDA?

Lauren Read, BCBA, joins the show to demystify Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA), a lesser-known but increasingly recognized profile within the autism spectrum. She explains that PDA is characterized by extreme resistance to everyday demands due to a heightened need for autonomy and control, often mistaken for oppositional behavior. The conversation highlights the importance of collaboration over authority, practical strategies to avoid power struggles, and the role of co-regulation in helping children manage their emotions. Lauren also shares insights on recognizing physical signs of distress, setting collaborative boundaries, and fostering a safe, supportive home environment.

About the Guest:

Lauren Reed is a Board Certified Behavior Analyst (BCBA) specializing in working with children on the autism spectrum. She has a deep understanding of PDA and its impact on families, offering compassionate, evidence-based strategies for managing challenging behaviors.

Key Takeaways:

  • PDA is a distinct profile within autism that requires a unique approach.
  • Collaboration and flexibility are critical for reducing power struggles.
  • Recognizing bodily responses can help parents anticipate and manage challenging behaviors.
  • Creating a safe and supportive environment can significantly improve outcomes for children with PDA.
  • Self-care is essential for parents managing the emotional toll of PDA.

Time Stamps:

00:00 Introduction and Casual Conversation

02:59 Setting the Stage: Free CEUs and Surprise Words

03:50 Guest Introduction: Meet Lauren Reed

04:50 Understanding Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA)

05:55 Identifying PDA in Children

08:47 Approaching PDA: Strategies and Techniques

14:17 Parenting Tips for Managing PDA

19:53 Collaborative Parenting Approach

20:45 Avoiding Power Struggles

22:26 The Importance of Responsibility

24:37 Setting Collaborative Rules

27:10 Recognizing Bodily Responses

30:32 Teaching Regulation Strategies

35:52 Creating a Safe Environment

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