Caregivers are often the unsung heroes of healthcare: key decision‑makers, advocates, researchers, and emotional anchors. Yet, support for their own mental health is frequently absent. In this episode, Lumanity's Jenny Payne sits down with Ashlee Cramer and Ceinwen Giles to break misconceptions ("Caregivers are saints and happy to do it") and discuss the real impact — from anxiety, depression, and burnout to post‑traumatic growth (PTG). We explore how caregiving can mean sacrificing careers, social connections, and personal health, while also offering moments of deep human connection and perspective.