This episode of VHHA’s Patients Come First podcast features an interview with Dr. Mark Shapiro, a hospitalist and Associate Medical Director for St. Joseph Health Medical Group in California who also is the founder, producer, and host of the Explore the Space podcast. During the conversation, Dr. Shapiro discusses clinical issues and his podcasting exploits. Send questions, comments, or feedback to [email protected] or contact us on Twitter or Instagram using the #PatientsComeFirst hashtag.