This is a little 30 minute preview of the first episode of "Fireside Chats" which will be a Patreon exclusive show where I bring back guests that still have more to say and have a more informal chat with them. If that's something you're interested in then check out www.patreon.com/treesandnylon or the link in my bio and give it a listen.

Also, you if you do decide to support me (thank you by the way) then you will be charged the day you become a patron and then the first of every month every day after that.