My guest today is Patrick Hansen. He is the Head of Strategy and Growth at Unstoppable Finance. It is a start-up with a mission of financial inclusion and making decentralised finance accessible to the mass market.

Patrick and I talked about what it takes to onboard billion users in DeFi and what they are building at Unstoppable Finance to contribute to this goal. Some of the specific topics that we discussed are below:

- Current challenges in DeFi
- Response from regulators and policy-makers
- CBDCs vs. privately-issued stable coins
- Transformational impact of web 3.0 and expanding use of NFTs
- Serving 'power users' and new users of crypto at the same time

Please enjoy my conversation with Patrick Hansen.

Please see below the link to Patrick's Medium article from Aug-2020, where he talked about the challenges in DeFi.

https://patrickhansen-79119.medium.com/why-defi-is-still-years-away-from-mass-adoption-and-its-3-main-challenges-ahead-a46000b5dcfc