Today's guest is Patrick O'Brien, Senior Safety and Cybersecurity Engineer at exida.

In today's episode, Patrick discusses exida and his role there, the safety and cybersecurity issues facing industrial systems, the similarities and differences between threat models facing organizations, working on ISA/IEC 62443 and other standards, what role the software development plays in developing standards, his industry's use of SBOM, the most significant cybersecurity threat asset owners face today, whether he is optimistic or pessimistic about the future of cybersecurity, a surprise Penn State football question, and as always, his toughest lesson learned.