Joe and Amy sit down with Patrick Reilly, currently the Clinic Manager of a Medication Assisted Opioid Treatment Program in Milwaukee Wisconsin and one of the cohosts of the "Don't Die Wisconsin" podcast. We talk about his transition from working in residential treatment to harm reduction, why he feels it's so important for abstinent people to support all pathways to recovery and specifically his appearance at the Senate Committee on Judiciary and Public Safety to legalize fentanyl testing strips. Visit our sponsor for 20% off Clean Cause