Ubuntu Radio in conversation with Mr Patrick Williams, the Chief Director: Back Office & Statuses at the Department of Home Affairs during the 3rd South Africa-Ireland Joint Commission for Cooperation (JCC). He is one of the officials accompanying Deputy Minister Alvin Botes during his visit in Dublin, Ireland, where he co-chaired the 3rd South Africa-Ireland Joint Commission for Cooperation (JCC) with the Irish Minister of State of International Development and Diaspora, Mr Sean Flemming, on 18 September 2024.