In this conversation, Ken Ferguson & David Burgess Joyce discuss the pressing need for reform in Britain, particularly in the context of the Conservative Party's failures and the evolving landscape of policing. They express disillusionment with the current political climate, highlighting issues such as the cultural challenges within law enforcement, the controversial handling of rape gangs, and the need for accountability among authorities. The discussion also touches on the disconnect between party leadership and grassroots supporters, the implications of net zero policies, and the broader societal issues stemming from political decisions. Ken and David discuss various pressing issues facing Britain, including climate change, fracking, government spending, the NHS, the judiciary, education, and patriotism. They argue against the prevailing narratives around climate change, advocates for fracking as a solution, and criticizes the mismanagement of local councils and the NHS. The conversation also highlights the need for educational reform to promote critical thinking and expresses a strong sense of patriotism, emphasizing Britain's historical contributions to the world.