Kimberly and Hillary, two friends who have been around politics and government, come together from opposite sides of the aisle and discuss the concepts of Patriotism and Nationalism and have a few laughs along the way.

The Civil Discourse Society is a podcast put together by some Democrats and Republicans for a respectful exchange of ideas. The goal is to brainstorm better governance, with a flagrant disregard for who’s side of the aisle the ideas originated. If it’s a good idea, who cares? We have no idea if this will work. Join us won’t you?

Podcast segments: What are we talking about?, What needs fixing?, and Brainstorm Better Governance. We do our research but lets be honest, this stuff is complex. So we reserve the right to “pin” certain facts and chats to come back to in later podcasts after we do more research and soul searching. Most importantly, we zing each other at the end of each episode with "epic" partisan one-liners. Vote for your favorites on our Instagram, The Civil Discourse Society, so one of us can have bragging rights.

What Are We Talking About?

Patriotism is the healthy kind of love that is also selfless. At times, you give without expectation for anything in return. Nationalism is the unhealthy kind of love: it’s the kind that can turn crazy, like those ex husbands on Dateline that murder their ex wives and claim the gun went off by accident. Like all strong emotions, Patriotism and Nationalism can subtly morph into the other, and because we are seeing this play out on the national stage, we wanted to lead off this podcast series with some thoughts on Patriotism and Nationalism in 2019.

Link to Merriam Websters Dictionary's definition of Patriotism: Love for or devotion to one's country

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to article with David French quote, “The Patriotism of Deeds.”

-National Review

Link to US Army Captain Humayun Khan, and his family’s, story. -Time Magazine

Link to Dr. Seuss Goes to War by Richard Minear. -Amazon

Link

to Dr. Seuss realized his bigotry and grew past it. “The Complicated

Relevance of Dr. Seuss’s Political Cartoons” -The Atlantic

Nationalism Sources:

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to video of Trump’s Nationalism quote. -The New York Times

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to article about Trump’s Nationalism and comments on Globalism. -The

Hill

Link to article on Trump’s America First inauguration comments. -BBC

Link to article on history of America First, "President Trump's America First Slogan was First Popularized by Nazi Sympathizers." -The Washington Post

Link to Anti Defamation League open letter asking Donald Trump to change slogans because of historical context. -ADL website

Link to article on historical context of prolific American terms, "The Original Meanings of the “American Dream” and “America First” Were Starkly Different From How We Use Them Today." -Smithsonian Magazine

Link to article on census data and unhyphenated Americans, "The American Nationalism Problem." -The Huffington Post

Link to Khizr Khan's speech at the DNC. -CSPAN

Link to details of Trump's military records, "Was Trump a 'draft dodger'?" -PunditFact

What Needs Fixing?

Trying to make people stand for the National Anthem

Link to article on Trump's response to kneeling during anthem, "Donald Trump Called for NFL Players to Be Fired for National Anthem Kneeling — And They Responded." -Fortune