The Oregon Business Matters podcast talks with two pillars of Oregon journalism. Patsy Smullin is owner and president of California Oregon Broadcasting (COBI), the parent company of KOBI-TV in Medford. And Bob Wise is president and general manager of KOBI-TV. KOBI is an NBC affiliate in Medford.

Bob Wise has worked at KOBI-TV for more than 20 years. And last November, Patsy was honored as a "giant of broadcasting and the electronic arts" by the Library of American Broadcasting Foundation.

Patsy and Bob talk with host Angela Wilhelms about their years in the broadcast business, the shifting journalism landscape, the importance of local news providers and much more.