<p>There's getting close to art and there's becoming one with art. Rarely can we choose when the latter happens to us.</p>

There's getting close to art and there's becoming one with art. Rarely can we choose when the latter happens to us.

Patti Smith and the Creativity to Stumble at 70.

Mick Thyer and Jason Joel discuss creative icons of the past and speak with present day guests who are willing to share the ups and downs of their creative pursuits. Holding firm in the belief that creativity comes from action, this weekly podcast has already inspired thousands to go out and create.

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Patti Smith and the Creativity to Stumble at 70.

Patti Smith and the Creativity to Stumble at 70.