Today's episode features a first: two programs from the same speaker at different moments in history - Patti Smith: as interviewed by Jessica Hopper in 2019, and back again in 2022, telling stories and singing live with guitar accompaniment from her son Jackson.

SHOW NOTES:

Watch the full conversations from 2019 here and from 2022 here.

Read the podcast transcript.

CW: Light profanity.

Photo: Patti Smith at the Chicago Humanities Fall Festival at the Symphony Center.

Photo: Patti Smith at the Music Box Theatre with a photo of Maryam Mirzakhani.

Photo: Patti Smith at the Music Box Theatre with a photo of a porcelain bird.

Patti Smith, Year of the Monkey

Patti Smith, A Book of Days

Jessica Hopper, The First Collection of Criticism By A Living Female Rock Critic

Episode photo by Steven Sebring

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