In this episode we spoke to Patty Berne, co-founder and executive director of Sins Invalid, a performance and disability justice movement organization. Vulnerable populations in our society tend to be devalued, marginalized, and treated as powerless. Devaluing people is the first step toward dehumanization, and in its place we start a process of “othering.” When disabled people are made “other” their artistry risks becoming fetishized. Counteracting this begins with centering each other’s humanity, which is an essential element in the work of Patty and Sins Invalid.