On this episode of Off the Clock, I’m joined by my pal Paul, a dude I co-founded a network with, someone I deeply respect, and a brilliant podcaster. Here’s some of what we talk about:

First Question: When I pitched this and asked you pitch a place in Denver that brings you joy, why are we sitting at the Chipotle on the 16th Street Mall?

• why people bitch about the city, why I generally don’t, and our different impressions of his show City Cast Denver
• why Paul loves tough (but reasonable) feedback and dissent
• why I dislike video podcasting formats
• how we can survive for a very long time on a great compliment
• the importance of being yourself as much as possible, especially in a public format
• the most batsh*t insane take about concerts I have ever heard
• of these two seven deadly sins, which is preferable: pride or greed?
• we talk some sh*t about Boulder, CO (well, I do)
• our shared concern about the businesses along Colfax during this construction phase of Bus Rapid Transit
• what does Paul think could improve the city, and would he ever leave?
• we share all sorts of opinions on the New York Times, Star Wars, WWE, kayfabe, AEW and a lot more
• the “legalize recreational cocaine guys” at the No Kings protest
• what to do to embolden journalism in a very challenging environment

Find Paul at City Cast Denver.

Photo by Jeff Stonic.

Theme song by Sorry Sweetheart.

Logo by Nebulus Visions.

Produced by Deft Communications.

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Recorded on the patio of the Chipotle at 1480 16th St. in Denver.