"Just defend better and you won't need resilience." It's the logic trap that's burning out CISOs worldwide - but what if the entire premise is wrong?

In this episode of The Cyber Insights Podcast (powered by Edge7 Networks), hosts Ronan Murray and Ian Finlayson sit down with Dr. Paul Guckian, author of "Systematic Cyber Risk: Why CISOs Can't Fix Cybersecurity," to explore why treating cyber as an organisational problem still isn't enough.

Drawing from research across financial services, fire safety evolution, and military cyber command, Paul reveals why cybersecurity requires systemic solutions - not just better snipers. From the CrowdStrike incident to ransomware containment strategies, this conversation challenges the perfectionist mindset that plagues security professionals.

💡You'll learn:

• Why CISOs are snipers fighting a general's war (and why that matters)
• The critical difference between cyber knowledge and cyber understanding
• How organisations hit "tipping points" where recovery becomes impossible
• Why containment deserves its own pillar in security frameworks
• What Delta vs United Airlines reveals about true cyber resilience
• Why compliance gets you to level 3 maturity - but rarely beyond
• The uncomfortable truth: you must assume your security will fail

Whether you're a CISO fighting burnout, a board member seeking clarity, or an IT leader tired of impossible expectations, this episode reframes cybersecurity from an unwinnable battle into a manageable systems problem.

🎧 Listen now and shift from defence-only thinking to genuine resilience.