80,000 Hours Podcast

#169 – Paul Niehaus on whether cash transfers cause economic growth, and keeping theft to acceptable levels

10.26.2023 - By Rob, Luisa, Keiran, and the 80,000 Hours teamPlay

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"One of our earliest supporters and a dear friend of mine, Mark Lampert, once said to me, “The way I think about it is, imagine that this money were already in the hands of people living in poverty. If I could, would I want to tax it and then use it to finance other projects that I think would benefit them?” I think that's an interesting thought experiment -- and a good one -- to say, “Are there cases in which I think that's justifiable?” — Paul Niehaus In today’s episode, host Luisa Rodriguez interviews Paul Niehaus — co-founder of GiveDirectly — on the case for giving unconditional cash to the world's poorest households. Links to learn more, summary and full transcript. They cover:The empirical evidence on whether giving cash directly can drive meaningful economic growthHow the impacts of GiveDirectly compare to USAID employment programmesGiveDirectly vs GiveWell’s top-recommended charitiesHow long-term guaranteed income affects people's risk-taking and investmentsWhether recipients prefer getting lump sums or monthly instalmentsHow GiveDirectly tackles cases of fraud and theftThe case for universal basic income, and GiveDirectly’s UBI studies in Kenya, Malawi, and LiberiaThe political viability of UBIPlenty moreProducer and editor: Keiran Harris

Audio Engineering Lead: Ben Cordell

Technical editing: Dominic Armstrong and Milo McGuire

Additional content editing: Luisa Rodriguez and Katy Moore

Transcriptions: Katy Moore

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