In our Bonus podcast episode, available only for subscribers to the Pastor Paul community, Paul received a Tarot Card reading from Ashley Hefley, the Fairy Witchy Mama. Watch and see if the action feels "demonic" or scary as has been the description of mystic arts by the evangelical church for hundreds of years. Check out this former-evangelical-turned-mystic who believes even those who have not left Christianity can find practices, techniques, and healing in connecting with the earth through more “woo woo” type beliefs.

* Watch these two talk live on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/p/Cem5Bp1F4D-/

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