In this episode, I sit down with my good friend Paul Volcheff who is an avid world traveler, aviation industry expert, Sales Account Executive, investment enthusiast, and honestly just an all-around good, smart dude.

We have a casual conversation about a wide range of topics from the perspective shifts one experiences through travel, trying to figure out your identity in this world, how our minds are programmed by social media, the future of tech with blockchain, investing tips, and more.

Rio, my dog, also makes a few cameos throughout the interview...

Enjoy!

- Chris

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