Nate is off today, so Ryan interviews his brother, Trevor. We encourage you to pause and listen to him instead of doing what Christians are generally trained to do: negate and convert. When we do listen, we believe we grow in empathy and compassion.

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Music: Unity (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8X9_MgEdCg) by thefatrat; licensed by LatinAutor, BMI - Broadcast Music Inc.