Welcome to another episode of Don’t Do That! with Karen and Anee. We're talking about success — and the story we’re often told about how it’s earned. That success requires struggle. That you have to “pay your dues” to deserve it. But is that actually true? Have we collectively accepted the idea that success can’t exist without hardship?

In this episode, we discuss:

• The adage of “paying dues” which often means enduring a toxic environment and a lack of transparency and inclusion. Paying dues often leads to burnout and high turnover.
• How Millennials and Gen Z professionals are pushing back on the outdated mindset of “paying dues”.

Some key takeaways are:

• Challenges and suffering are different. Challenges are about development while suffering erodes your personhood and well-being.
• Growth and development does not require exploitation. You can be intentional and explicit about learning and growth opportunities, without being unethical.

Resources (links):

• Post from Jasmine McCall on LinkedIn
• Article: Organizational Culture: Paying Your Dues

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