It’s been a rough couple of weeks since our last podcast, but today Jay’s daughter Sara sent a text saying he’s feeling better and wants to record a show 😀. And she and Gary’s wife Cyndi join us for this episode!

And we’ll note that audio expert Gary had to hastily assemble a shot with all four of us, and he forgot to route Cyndi’s audio correctly, so she ends up with a voice of God echo. Good thing he’s retired🤨