I interview Katie Guinn, artist, designer and writer from Portland OR

1. How do you practice your art when you're a parent?

2. Katie recommends two movies: The Love Witch and Neon Demon

Martha recomends the podcast Invisibilia, The Callout Episode

3. Martha tells a story about being "The Wrong Martha Grover" and Katie tells a story about a dream workshop and lionesses. 

4. We talk about our projects - Specifically Katie's book, Stoner Babes

5. We both share something we learned this week - owl pellets and teeth modification

Thanks for listening!

Check out Katie's website: katieguinn.com

and my patreon page: patreon.com/marthagrover